For each interview, we prepare separate sheets of scripts to ask more contextual questions per participant.
In the interview with the Director of Social Media, we focused on asking her team’s work and goal, and social-specific questions such as social platforms, statistics, etc.
Interview Script for Social Media Team
Since the participant didn’t directly handle Toolbelt as part of her job, we voice-recorded the entire session and screen-recorded partially when she demonstrated the weekly analytics report that she sends out.
Voice Recording of Social Media Director’s Interview Session
Screen recording of Weekly Analytics Report
Role
Director, Social Media: focus on daytime programming and business news
- Responsible for setting the best practices of the network
- Training people on social media changes and the corresponding strategy shifts
- Figure out automation through different products and tools
- Responsible for brand reach and getting CNBC brand out to new audiences
- Creating content for social: Handles Instagram
- Putting digital content through social filter (optimize on SocialFlow) and publish on the social platform that makes sense on
- Work closely with the digital teams to make it easy for them to contribute to social media
- Create weekly analytics report for interested parties
- Can create one in 30 minutes – expert user
Goal
To drive referrals and grow brand reach for CNBC.
Overall, make the business sharable.
Work function in the team
- Herself as Director of Social Media
- Product analytics
- Partnerships
- Handle all roadblocks so that people can produce their content easily
- Senior producer
- Focuses on day to day editorial
- Associate producer
- Work day-to-day across 7 different social networks
- Can be up to 10, but 3 are automated
- Designer
- Creates Graphics to be used in social media
- Only designer in the Editorial teams
Experience
A year and 4 months with CNBC
Has minimal experience with Toolbelt
- Used it twice
- She doesn’t create content for digital, mostly helps distributing it
- It’s extremely confusing
Worked at a lot of different news companies with different CMSs:
- CBS: very early CMS, no social capability
- Local station at Austin: Homegrown, very old
- HLN: Drupal CMS. Nice and easy to use, but didn’t have a lot of options
- Worked with a team who developed iReport: ingested user-generated content in CMS – not good
Day-to-Day Work
By function
- Hot Seats
- Someone is dedicated to understanding exactly what’s happening what’s happening right now and how many information needs to get distributed
- Requests
- Small: Can you retweet me?
- Big: We have a documentary coming, so what is our entire social strategy around that documentary going to look like?
- Most request is to go up on Facebook
- Social Media related
- Tweet from various accounts
- Flagship CNBC account
- Make It account
- Optimize SocialFlow RSS feeds and distribute the publish times
- Reoptimize the best performers
- Check multiple sources to see what to post
- Slack
- Hunting on site
- Check Twitter feed
- Tweet from various accounts
- Content production
- Across all the social platforms, pay special attention
- Looking at content and break it up efficiently
- For video: should they turn it into GIF?
- What resources they would need
- Create something completely new based on the text
- Use Toolbelt to grab photos
- Specialties
- Director
- Monitor performance and weekly analysis
- Picks up small tasks for the team
- Produce for Instagram, produce for other platforms as well when creativity strikes
- Senior Manager
- Works with the TV crews or digital producers on any number of projects
- Produce for Facebook, Make It Flagship
- Producer
- Owns brand called Make It, and tweets from Make It account
- Associate Producer
- Supports all the production throughout the day
- Supports Make It accounts
- Writes stories working with Make It and digital teams
- Create content for the articles to get more traffic
- Director
By time
- Senior Manager in the morning
- 7 AM – 10 AM
- Morning sets the tone for the day and what the priorities are
- Communicating and gathering assets from people on the TV side and on the digital side
- Looking at what people are talking about, what’s trending, and informing the digital TV team
- Producer
- Comes in at 8 AM, Hot Seat shift from 10 AM to 2 PM
- Associate Producer
- Support all day, Hot Seat shift from 2PM to 6 PM
- At night when the lighter amount of content comes in
Often-used Content Type and Features in Toolbelt
Work in Progress
Pain Points
- Difficult to collaborate without face-to-face meetings and only Slack
- Trying to figure out how to work with different managers to create more collaborative environment
- Writing a story in Toolbelt in general is difficult
- Finding how to hyperlink
- Didn’t understand paragraph breaks – looked like modules
- How to add photo
- Differences between photos are not clear
- Thumbnail that shows up in the homepage vs. the picture inside the story
- How to upload graphics is not clear
- Wanted to put graphics used in social media in Toolbelt
- People were scared that parts of the infographic might get cut off because of different crop sizes
- Also scared that somebody would use it as one of the thumbnails, not use it as embed
- Couldn’t figure out how to solve for that, so the whole thing got scrapped
- RSS feed on SocialFlow does not update in real-time
- Once tried out editors tweeting out without approval – it was as if they forgot how to tweet
- There would be benefits if they tweeted out immediately
- They would need to get trained & get used to it
- Tried to send out daily reminders for people to share their content on social
Wants
- Have more collaboration with other teams, face-to-face
- Have digital producers and staff more involved
- Educate them what works on social
- Giving them feedback on how the article did
- People to communicate with the Social team when things are getting published
- Appreciates Slack requests
- Latest Stories page in Toolbelt
- To see all the stories that are published but the Social team didn’t get notified on
- RSS feed that pulls photos
- To set up automated feed on LinkedIn, which does better for photos
- Clear, use-case-base labels on fields
- Gets questions about which description fields will show up on Facebook, etc.
- Easy way to integrate social media on articles, e.g. embed
- Currently, there’s a guideline on how to embed that someone else wrote
- Wants people to easily share their own content out to social
- Interested in the ability to tweet from CMS
- Reminder for the editors to share after they publish
- Pre-written Twitter or Facebook Headline that gets shared instead of article headline
- both from front and back ends
- How different the headlines would be, platform by platform?
- Not sure how the social teams workflow shift would be – RSS feeds are working well currently
- Thinks that can be done in the front-end
- Thinks that writers know best which part is interesting – social team can give feedback and train them on how to write the social facing contents
- Interested in the ability to see statistics within CMS
- Wants someone to easily check the stats of the story that one wrote
- Relevant stats
- Who’s linking the story
- Who shared the story
- How many shares did the story get
- Which platform the story is popular on
- Is the SEO effective
- How many actual referrals
- How much time people are spending on the story
- The stats will help CNBC to learn:
- Overall trends
- How are those trends impacting what they’re doing
- What kinds of stories are best for specific verticals
- Interested in predictive technology
- Recommends based on the formula
- e.g. This article might do well on the homepage, because it’s getting a lot of shares and have good SEO
- Recommends based on the formula
Tools & Software
- SocialFlow
- Takes all the 20 different RSS feeds and bring them into a queue
- The social team manipulates the content, and schedules it to go out, optimizes it, or sends it out immediately
- Manipulate the publishing time so that articles are spread out in publish time
- Sometimes the content doesn’t get pulled real-time – looking into the issue
- RSS feeds
- Set up to automatically tweet
- Slack
- Communication with Digital team
- Efficient when it doesn’t need a lot of back and forth, just for dropping requests
- Different channels/groups help the communiation
- Social team: talk about what they’re going to do and how they’re doing it
- Graphics: Reviewing images before they go out
- CNBC Social channel: post requests with links
- Share industry information
- Video: social video
- Thinks that it doesn’t give a sense of camaraderie. Sometimes it’s hard to describe an idea or hard to understand what someone is saying
- Email
- Getting fewer and fewer
- TV teams still email
- Chartbeat & CrowdTangle
- Post through the channel
- Analytics tools
- Domo
- Referrals pacing overall from social
- Engagement
- Facebook Insights
- Reach, follower counts
- Spredfast
- Engagement rates
- Variation of contents
- Omniture
- Facebook stories with the highest referrals
- Compare with 12 weeks before, 52 weeks before
- Domo
Work Behaviors & Rules
- Don’t break it down by social network
- Everybody produces for all social networks
- Publish everything in real-time
- If a team member is in a really good groove on one social platform, let that member handle the platform.
- Contents have to be on brand & about business news, not general news
- High-quality images to be used, especially on Instagram
Miscellaneous
Heard about CMSs that has sharing capabilities within
- CNN
- Business Insider from Jay